I never had any problems with my original 5D, but I’ve heard of the mirror falling out in some cases. Perhaps there was some sort of problem with the attachment mechanism? Well, I’ve noticed that on the new 5D Mark II you can see two metal tabs that appear to be holding the mirror in place. Take a look at the comparison pictures. You can click for larger versions.
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| Canon 5D | Canon 5D Mark II (tabs are circled) |
Maybe this will reassure any original 5D owners who had mirror problems.
After spending a day with the 5D Mark II, I can share a few initial comments. The camera handles very similarly to the original 5D. A few of the controls have been rearranged…changing ISO with the top control dial will take a little getting used to. I’d like to see a custom function that would move it back to the quick control dial. The build quality feels very good overall, although the power switch is a new design and seems to have some extra play that makes it feel a bit less robust.
I’m glad that Canon added a dedicated AF-On button. This is my preferred method of focusing, and now I can keep my AE lock button as well. As expected, the new high resolution LCD screen is great for checking focus. However, my initial impression is that has a bit too much contrast and saturation compared to the actual images. Maybe it’s displaying the embedded preview from the RAW file…I need to do some more tests to see exactly what’s going on.
Image quality looks to be very good so far, including some impressive results at high ISOs. For now I’m stuck using a different RAW converter, so it’s hard for me to make comparisons to the 1Ds Mark III and original 5D. Once Lightroom 2.2 is released later this month, I should be able to get a better handle on it.
Finally, I’ve spent some time playing with the video mode. I’ve already found some tricks for controlling exposure. In general the image quality is great, without obvious compression artifacts. However, I’ve already seen some instances of the moire that was reported on the RED user forums. I’m working on a separate post with some frame grabs that show the problem.
As I mentioned in my previous post about controlling the 5D Mark II’s shutter speed for video, it seems that the auto metering likes to use a shutter speed that is 1/focal length. It turns out that you can also exploit this behavior to get some control of the aperture.
If a scene is too bright, the 5D Mark II will stop down the lens before it drops the shutter speed below 1/focal length. So if you are working with a zoom lens, you can force a smaller aperture by zooming to a longer focal length until the camera picks your desired aperture. Then lock the exposure with * and zoom back to the actual focal length you want to use.
There’s been much gnashing of teeth over the fact that Canon has limited the 5D Mark II’s video mode by not providing manual controls for ISO, shutter speed and aperture. I’m new to the whole video thing, but from what I’ve read so far, controlling shutter speed is especially important to people that want a film-like look. Apparently this is because motion picture cameras normally employ a 180 degree shutter, which means that the shutter speed is double the frame rate. Since film normally runs at 24 frames per second (fps), it uses a 1/48 second shutter speed. The 5D Mark II runs at 30 fps, so we don’t want it using anything slower than 1/60 of a second.
Here’s the trick: It seems that Canon’s auto exposure algorithm prefers to use a shutter speed that is 1/focal length of the lens. So if you’re using a zoom lens like the 24-70mm, you can set the lens at 60mm to give you a 1/60 shutter speed, lock the exposure using the * button and then zoom in or out as you please.
The lighting of the scene seems to exert some influence on the shutter speed, so you’ll need to zoom in and out around the 60mm length until you find a spot that forces 1/60. You can check this by half-pressing the shutter button, which will cause the camera to display it’s chosen shutter speed, aperture and ISO at the bottom of the LCD screen.
I just received my camera today, so hopefully I’ll have more insights to post over the coming weeks.
Update: Please note that the displayed values will still change after the exposure is locked. The user manual says that these are the values that will be used if a still photo is taken, but supposedly the exposure for video will remain at the locked settings. It sure would be nice if the camera would keep the video settings displayed. Of course, manual exposure settings would be even better…
My new Canon 5D Mark II arrived today. So far I’ve only had time to unbox it and play around a little. I’m planning to post some first impressions later tonight, and then I’ll be working on some review posts as I get to know the camera. In addition to talking about how it handles as a still camera, I’m going to take a look at the new video functionality that everyone’s so excited about.
In the meantime, here’s my original post about why I decided to sell the 1Ds Mark III and switch to the 5D Mark II.
For most of the past year, I’ve been using a Canon 1Ds Mark III as my primary camera. It provides phenomenal image quality (when used with the right lenses), and it handles really well. But it’s also REALLY expensive. So when Canon announced that the new 5D Mark II would have the same 21 megapixel resolution at a third of the price, I knew that I had a decision to make. Was it time to sell my 1Ds3 and “downgrade” to the 5D2, hopefully freeing up several thousand dollars that I could save or invest in lenses, etc.
I knew that I’d be giving up some of the professional features that the 1-series cameras have, and that the new 5D is actually better in some areas, so I put together a comparison based on the features that matter to me. Those may not be the same things that matter to you, so I’ll start with a few words about the kinds of subjects that I shoot. I mostly do landscape and wildlife photography, plus some outdoor lifestyle images of people and dogs. I’ll talk more about how each camera feature relates to specific subject matter below.
| Feature | 1Ds Mark III | 5D Mark II | Comments |
| Sensor | 21 megapixel CMOS | 21 megapixel CMOS with improved noise procesing circuitry and new color filters featuring increased light transmission | The high-resolution sensor is the biggest reason for why I originally bought the 1Ds3. It’s allowed me to make amazing prints up to 36″ x 24″. It’s key that the 5D2 retains that same level of detail. In fact, the changes to the sensor should make it even better at high ISOs, although we won’t know for sure until we see samples from production cameras. If it can approach the low-light capabilities of the Nikon D3 and D700, that would really be something! But I’m not holding my breath. There’s also been some comment that the new sensor offers increased dynamic range, but we’ll have to wait and see on that one too. |
| Viewfinder | Full-frame, 100% coverage, 0.76x magnification, eye-piece shutter, diopter adjustment hidden behind eyecup | Full-frame, 98% coverage, 0.71x magnification | I love the viewfinder on the 1Ds3. It’s the best I’ve used on any DSLR (although I hear the Sony A900 is even better!). It’s big, it’s bright, and it’s easy to use with glasses. I’ll miss the 100% coverage a little, as it’s nice to be able to compose right out to the edges of the frame without having to check the LCD. And I’ll miss the increased magnification too, since I find that it makes it easier to compose quickly and follow action within the frame. I like having the little lever for sealing off the viewfinder during long exposures. It’s a more practical solution than the little rubber cap Canon supplies attached to the neck strap, which requires removing the eyecup. Maybe I’ll try making my own cover that will slip over the eyecup. Finally, it’s nice that 1Ds3 protects the diopter from accidental adjustment by hiding it behind the eyecup…at least, that’s what I used to think, until I accidentally changed my diopter while changing eyecups in order to use a raincover. So either way, I still need to tape it down for safety. Canon, how about some hind of mechanical lock to prevent accidental diopter changes? But really, these are all quibbles. I owned the original 5D, and I was pretty happy with its viewfinder. |
| Weather sealing | Canon’s standard pro-level weather sealing. | More sealed than the original 5D, less sealed than the 1Ds3. | The good news is that Canon has added some weather sealing to the 5D2, the bad news is that it’s less well sealed than the 1Ds3, and Canon is being vague about what that means in practice. I like having weather sealing, especially after discovering how hard it is to change lenses when using something like the Aquatech SS-200 raincover. But it’s rare that I’m actually going to be standing out in the rain shooting. When I do, it’s probably for wildlife, and I’ll be using a long telephoto with a rain cover. |
| Autofocus | Fast, with many cross-type points, more coverage | Less fast, fewer points overall, only center point is cross-type | Okay, this is the feature that I am really going to miss. I’ve used the original 5D, and it’s AF system just was not adequate for fast moving subjects. Unfortunately, Canon has kept it unchanged for the new model. I do a lot of wide angle photography of dogs, which is actually quite demanding in terms of autofocus. The dogs don’t stay still for long, especially if they are playing. I choose to always use a single focus point, and I use “thumb focus” using the separate AF-On button. The real weakness of the 5D comes into play when trying to compose an off-center image, like if you want to place your subject using the rule of thirds. With the 1Ds3, the AF points are widely spaced enough that I can usually put a point where I want my subject, then hold my composition while I wait for the peak moment. Since the 5D2 has less coverage, I’m often forced to recompose or resort to manual focus. If I am able to get an outer point on the subject, I find that the cross-type points of the 1Ds3 usually focus faster than those of the 5D. |
| Custom modes | None | 3 custom settings on the mode dial | This is a nice feature addition on the 5D2. I often have a default group of settings for a particular kind of shooting, so I’m looking forward to saving those into the custom groups. For instance, if I’m going to be taking landscape images with a tripod, I need to turn on mirror lock-up and set the drive mode to 2-second timer. |
| ISO range | 50-3200 | 50-25600 | On the 1Ds3 I prefer not to go above 1600 ISO. I’ll be really excited if 3200 or 6400 on the 5D2 look as good as 1600 on the 1Ds3, but we’re going to have to wait and see. |
| Video | None | 1080p at 30 fps | I’ve always been interested in film and video, so I think this will be fun to experiment with. Early reports indicate that the video quality is pretty incredible, and it’s certainly going to shake things up in the industry. |
| LCD | 3″, 230,000 pixels | 3″, 920,000 pixels | The new screen on the 5D2 should be a HUGE improvement. I’ve been jealous of screens like this since the Nikon D3 was announced. If you scroll about halfway down this page, DPReview has a good section where they explain why these new screens are so much nicer than the older ones. The 5D2 screen should be really useful when checking focus or trying to maximize depth of field in LiveView. |
| Drive speed and buffer | 5 FPS, 12 RAW images | 3.9 FPS, 13 RAW images | The buffers are about the same size, and I won’t miss the extra frame per second, except maybe for some wildlife work. |
| Responsiveness | 40-55ms shutter lag, 80ms mirror blackout | 73ms shutter lag, 145ms mirror blackout | The 1Ds3 is noticeably snappier than the original 5D, although the 5D is fast enough that I don’t generally feel that I’m missing shots because of shutter lag. It just takes slightly more anticipation of the moment that you want to capture. |
| Battery | Larger capacity, also physically larger and heavier | Smaller, lighter, cheaper | After my experience with using the 1Ds3 for star trail photography, I came to appreciate having the larger capacity battery. But otherwise this is a win for the 5D2…the smaller size and weight will be a benefit when travelling, especially the fact that the charger is so much smaller. |
| Size and weight | 3.1 pounds w/battery, pro-style body w/integrated vertical grip | 1.96 pounds w/battery | This one goes to the 5D2. I sometimes like using the integrated vertical grip of the 1Ds3, but as a guy who owns a titanium spoon, I’m more excited about saving over a pound when backpacking with my 5D2. Plus the smaller body style is a little less conspicuous when shooting in public. |
| Custom function to use SET as ISO button | Yes | No | Early reports are that the 5D2 is missing the 1Ds3’s custom function that allows you to use the SET button for changing ISO. Personally, I find this the easiest way to change ISO when you have the camera to your eye, and I hope Canon adds this option with a future firmware upgrade. |
| Voice memo | Yes | No | Even though the 5D2 has a microphone for movies, Canon neglected to include the voice memo feature. This is unfortunate, but it’s something that I only need occasionally. I guess I could always record a movie of myself talking to the camera 🙂 |
| Price | $8000 list, now down to about $7200 at B&H | $2700 list, no discounts yet | Obviously this is a big one. I think Canon must be scared of Sony’s new A900 to have introduced the 5D2 at such a (relatively) low price. Given that used 1Ds3’s seem to be selling in the mid-5K range, you can still have quite a bit of cash leftover if you switch. Of course, that also means you took a pretty big depreciation if you paid list. I was lucky to get a good price on my 1Ds3 when I bought it new, but if I hadn’t I might be more reluctant to give up those pro-spec features that I already paid for. Ultimately, my guess is that the days of the $8000 flagship camera may be over. I can’t really see people paying much more than $5000 for the 1Ds Mark IV, unless it turns out to have some super magic new sensor. I don’t think resolution alone will be enough to justify such inflated prices in the future. 21 megapixels already challenges my lenses and lets me make the biggest prints that I want to. Maybe we’ll eventually get back to a point that is more like film cameras, where they all have similar sensors and models are differentiated solely by other features. |
There are also some nice features that were new on the 1D3 and 1Ds3 and have now been carried over to the 5D2:
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Ultimately, I felt that it was worth switching. I’ve already sold my 1Ds3, and I’m on several waiting lists for the 5D2. Hopefully I’ll have one soon after it comes out. I’m planning to post a practical review on the still and video capabilities once I have the camera in my hands.